Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.





Iwata Asks: Splatoon

It Started With Tofu

Iwata

You’re all wearing matching t-shirts.

Nogami

Oh yes, we are. (laughs)

Sakaguchi

It was just a coincidence. (laughs)

Iwata

It doesn’t look like a coincidence to me. (laughs)

All

(laughs)

Nogami

There’s actually a t-shirt like this in Splatoon. That’s why we’re all wearing them today. 1. Hisashi Nogami: Production Department, Entertainment Analysis & Development Division. Producer of Splatoon. Appeared in Iwata Asks: Wii Channels 4: Aiming For Worldwide Mii Communication, Iwata Asks: Animal Crossing: City Folk.

Iwata

Oh, is that so? Now, you first introduced Splatoon at last year’s E32. What was the reaction like? 2. E3: Electronic Entertainment Expo. An industry event for computer and video games held every June in Los Angeles. Splatoon was presented for the first time at E3 in 2014.

Nogami

We had always thought that it was a really fun game, but we were happy to get an even bigger reaction than we’d expected.

Iwata

Why do you think it was so well received?

Nogami

I think it was because of how the game was easy to grasp once you start playing. Another part of it was that we revealed the game with a video. Amano-san studied filmmaking in college, so he made the announcement trailer for E3.

Iwata

It’s not often that a trailer is made by one of the developers. Trailers are usually made by an outside agency.

Amano

We decided to make the video ourselves this time because we had a really clear vision of what we wanted to show and how we wanted to show it. I think the video gives you a good idea of the kind of game it is even without playing it. It was most important for us to show off our new squid character. 3. Yusuke Amano: Production Department, Entertainment Analysis & Development Division. Director of Splatoon, with Sakaguchi. Appeared in Iwata Asks: Super Mario 25th Anniversary Volume 4: Super Mario Developers 2, Iwata Asks: Star Fox 64 3D, Iwata Asks: New Super Mario Bros. 2.

Sakaguchi

I was at E3, and the media kept asking, "Why squid?" (laughs) 4. Tsubasa Sakaguchi: Production Department, Entertainment Analysis & Development Division. Acted as Director on Splatoon, along with Amano. Appeared in Iwata Asks: Nintendo Land.

Nogami

We got asked that a lot. (laughs)

Iwata

The people reading this would probably also like us to start with the same question.

Nogami

Right. (laughs)

Iwata

You went through a lot of trial and error with this project, and ended up with squid. Let’s start off talking about that.

Nogami

Alright. We started this project after I finished working on the launch of Wii U.

Iwata

Nogami-san, you worked on the menu for Wii U, right?

Nogami

Right. And Sakaguchi-san was involved in developing Nintendo Land5, and Sato-san... 5. Nintendo Land: A theme park game released for December 2012 for the Wii U.

Sato

I was developing New Super Mario Bros. U6. 6. New Super Mario Bros. U: An action game released for Wii U in December 2012.

7. Shintaro Sato: Production Department, Entertainment Analysis & Development Division. Program Director for Splatoon.

Nogami

So, all of the team members were involved in the launch of Wii U. Once development had settled down, I gathered them all together and began this project. I said, "Let’s make a new kind of game, without worrying about trying to fit into existing game genres." Inoue-san was also working on the Wii U menu, so I asked him to join the project.

Inoue

That’s right. 8. Seita Inoue: Production Department, Entertainment Analysis & Development Division. Art Director for Splatoon.

Iwata

So you all got together to make a new kind of game, something that wasn’t Super Mario Bros. or The Legend of Zelda.

Nogami

Right. Of course there were other members of the team who aren’t here right now. All of us got together almost every day and brainstormed ideas for a new game. I think we had over fifty ideas...

Inoue

We had at least seventy ideas.

Iwata

Seventy ideas? How long did it take you to think of that many?

Nogami

About six months.

Iwata

That’s a lot of ideas.

Nogami

We were all pretty competitive about our brainstorming.

Amano

And sometimes we would be inspired by someone else’s idea, and think, "Here’s how I’d do it, if I did that."

Iwata

Like, "If that’s what we’re doing, I’d do it this way."

Sakaguchi

Right. Our ideas really branched out like that.

Nogami

So we all brainstormed ideas and gave a few presentations, and the idea that made it all the way to the end was the idea that grew into Splatoon.

Iwata

So I have to ask...The Entertainment Analysis & Development Division9 where you all work is responsible for a lot of Nintendo’s franchise characters, so they put a lot of work into maintaining series. This means that there’s not often a chance to make something new. 9. Entertainment Analysis & Development Division: One of Nintendo’s development divisions, headed by Shigeru Miyamoto. Responsible for the development of many of Nintendo’s character driven titles such as Super Mario Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Animal Crossing and Pikmin.

Nogami

You could say that.

Iwata

Of course they made games with a new structure when the Wii System came out, but the last new character was Pikmin10 and that was about 14 years ago. 10. Pikmin: An AI action game series. The first game was released for the Nintendo GameCube in December, 2001. Pikmin 2 was released for Nintendo GameCube in August 2004, and Pikmin 3 was released for Wii U in August 2013.

Nogami

That’s right. That was the last new character from the Entertainment Analysis & Development Division (EAD), and it was made 14 years ago.

Amano

But in the beginning we weren’t trying to create a new character. We were trying to create a new game structure first and foremost.

Nogami

That’s right. We weren’t invested in creating a new character. We just set out to create a game with a new structure.

Iwata

That’s very important. The way that (Shigeru) Miyamoto-san and the EAD make games, the idea comes not from the design, but from the function. The design comes after.

Nogami

That’s right.

Iwata

So you don’t approach making a game because you want to use a certain character.

Nogami

Right.

Iwata

So what was the idea that became the basis for Splatoon?

Nogami

A demo made by our Program Director Sato-san. At first there was a white cube in a maze...

Iwata

Tofu?

Nogami

Yes. (laughs) There was a white thing and a black thing shaped like blocks of tofu, and they were shooting ink and they had to steal each other’s turf.

Iwata

So at first it wasn’t squid at all. It was black and white tofu shooting each other with ink. (laughs)

Nogami

Right. (laughs)

Iwata

But tofu is usually white.

Sakaguchi

The black one was sesame tofu! (laughs)

Sato

So the basis of Splatoon was a fight between a block of sesame tofu and a block of firm tofu.

All

(laugh)