Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.





Special Edition: Creative Small Talk

Sporadic Thoughts

Miyamoto

I do more trivial stuff on the weekend.

Itoi

Oh, is that so?

Miyamoto

I only reflect upon myself sporadically.

Itoi

Sporadically.

Iwata

Not just on the weekends.

Miyamoto

Right. Like maybe after a meeting. I think particularly after I wasn't able to get my point across in a meeting. I think, "Was I too direct?"

Itoi

Oh, I like it. Shigeru Miyamoto thinking alone by himself.

Miyamoto

I'm often alone at the company at night. Even if others are working, they aren't around me. Then I have sporadic thoughts.

Itoi

What kinds of things do you think?

Miyamoto

A lot of extreme stuff. Like rather than think about how I handle something, I'll think about which is better, having it or not having it.

Itoi

Oh, uh-huh.

Miyamoto

Like, "If we're going to go with it, then we have to think that we have to do it by any means," or, "No, so tomorrow I'll tell everyone we're not doing that!"

Iwata

You have bold thoughts.

Miyamoto

Right. Sporadically, I think things like, "If someone doesn't say no, we'll never get anywhere."

Itoi

Whether it's the weekend or not.

Miyamoto

Rather, when I talk animatedly about work on Monday, I came up with the idea on Friday, developed it over the weekend, and decided to say something on Monday.

Iwata

Time opens up on the weekend, so your thoughts mature.

Miyamoto

Yes. I make progress.

Iwata

I do think that happens. That's why a lot of the time at lunch on Monday, someone says, "I finally figured this out." It's like you can clearly explain a problem that has remained nebulous for years.

Itoi

That does have to do with an idea maturing when you're alone, but I also feel something like a flash of insight that you can feel when the scenery you are looking at or the situation where you are in changes is also at work.

Miyamoto

On the weekend.

Itoi

Yes. When you're in a completely different place with a completely different atmosphere, your head changes and you see things a new way.

Miyamoto

That may be true. When I'm doing something totally different, I make discoveries like, "Oh, this has the same structure as that."

Itoi

That's what I mean. If you're always at the company, that's difficult to have.

Iwata

I see.

Miyamoto

When I come up with an idea at work on Friday and bring it up Saturday at home, no one pays it much mind.

Iwata

Aw! (laughs)

Miyamoto

They're like, "Well, of course!"

Itoi

That's no good.

Miyamoto

Right?

Itoi

You don't have an audience at home.

Everyone

(laughs)

Iwata

(laughs)

Miyamoto

I think, "Is it really such a small matter?"

Iwata

No one at home cares much.

Miyamoto

Then I reorganize my thoughts.

Itoi

At home, someone says, "Isn't that just the way it is?" and that's the end of it.

Iwata

(laughs)

Miyamoto

But I think that is good for maintaining objectivity.

Itoi

Yes, it is. It's important that no one takes you too seriously.

Iwata

Right. At home, you're treated with a certain distance, so you return to yourself.

Itoi

That's true…but I suspect you even get respect at home, Iwata-san.

Miyamoto

Uh-huh…I'm actually a little jealous!

Everyone

(laughs)