Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.





Volume Three: The Dense Volcano and Enemy Monsters

Enemies with a Touch of Humanity

Iwata

What awaits at the volcano?

Fujibayashi

The key item at the volcano is the Bomb.

Iwata

Is the Bomb the first item you get once you enter the volcano game field?

Fujibayashi

Yes. It's funny how the two most dangerous things are together. The volcano is hot, so if you aren't careful, the bombs will explode! Also, there's lava flowing not just in the dungeon, but around the whole game field, so if you don't use them safely, there are certain things you can't solve.

Iwata

They're bombs, so "Handle With Care." (laughs)

Fujibayashi

That's right. This time, you don't just throw the bombs overhand, you can also roll them underhand, so you can roll them down slopes, which is really fun.

Iwata

And you can put a curve on them.

Fujibayashi

Yes. So far in the series, the uses of the Bomb were limited. You could blow up a suspicious-looking rock to get past it or toss it down the mouth of a monster to defeat it. This time, you don't just throw it but also roll it for different uses depending on the angle of the Wii Remote controller, so the possibilities expanded. For example, just thinking about how we could get the Bomb close to the targets led to some new gameplay.

Tominaga

And bombs aren't the only things rolling down slopes.

Fujibayashi

That's right! (laughs)

Iwata

What else does?

Fujibayashi

Enemies!

Iwata

Enemies? Kiuchi-san, you worked on the enemies. What did you do?

Kiuchi

The old Bokoblin enemy from the series shows up. When you defeat enemies, usually they fly back and blow up with a boom and that's the end of them, but this time I thought about having them roll. (laughs)

Iwata

There are slopes, so what could be more natural, right?

Kiuchi

That's right. Then I wondered how a Bokoblin would roll. We tried a number of things, and in the end had them roll down like a big wheel.

Tominaga

They look so cute rolling like that! (laughs)

Iwata

Cute?! (laughs)

Kiuchi

Yes. (laughs) I hope that after people defeat them, they won't just pass by but will watch the Bokoblins roll!

Fujibayashi

You might give them a push just to see it happen! (laughs)

Kiuchi

The Bokoblins are often at a sort of lookout partway along a slope. They will fire arrows at you or throw rocks. When Link runs up with the Dash, he can just reach that lookout point.

Fujibayashi

Then Link is hanging there by both hands.

Kiuchi

When he tries—with an "Oomph!"—to clamber up onto the lookout, the nearby Bokoblins tromp over and try to step on his hands!

Iwata

Step on his hands?! That's mean! (laughs)

Kiuchi

And Link slips down.

Iwata

It's like a scene from a comic book! (laughs)

Fujibayashi

When the Bokoblins find you, they say, "Foogyah!" so you know they've found you. And when the Bokoblins trample on you, it looks like they're grinning.

Iwata

But they aren't really?

Fujibayashi

No, it just looks that way for some reason. (laughs)

Kiuchi

After that, you're ready for revenge, right? Then, when a Bokoblin raises a rock over his head to throw it at you, you blast him with the Slingshot! And then…

Iwata

He's busy lifting up a rock, so… Oh, I get it. (laughs)

Kiuchi

That's one way to beat them. And aside from the Slingshot, you can use whatever item you have on hand. The Bokoblins can react in surprising ways, so try whatever you can!

Iwata

I get the impression that even though the Bokoblins are enemies, they play an important role this time.

Tominaga

Yes. Until now, they just got in Link's way, swinging their swords and firing arrows, but this time, we did various things to give them a touch of humanity.

Fujibayashi

There are various types of Bokoblins. The Bokoblins who live in the forest are really primitive-looking, but those who live in the desert are in a slightly different style with surprisingly modernish weapons.

Iwata

Oh…

Fujibayashi

There's one that walks around carrying a lantern, and there's one that has a sword crackling with electricity.

Iwata

What happens when Link attacks that one?

Fujibayashi

If his attack gets blocked, it shocks him and he can't move for a while.

Iwata

I see. Why are there so many kinds of Bokoblins?

Fujibayashi

In this project, we created groups for each field—forest, volcano, desert—and they each proceeded with development. But the Bokoblins appear in every field, so the group making enemies cut across the others. That gave rise to the question "The Bokoblins at the volcano act like this, but how about in the desert?' (laughs)

Kiuchi

Then everyone threw out all kinds of ideas, saying, "This would work in our area," so the Bokoblins built up and grew more distinctive.

Fujibayashi

Their voices are great, too. I can't get that "Foogyah!" out of my head. And they shout "Neeaahh!" as they come down off the ropes, which is also pretty good. (laughs)

Tominaga

It's so cute. You want to hear it again and again.

Iwata

You guys sure do love those Bokoblins! (laughs)

Tominaga

Yes! They attack in all kinds of ways, which is despicable, but you just can't hate them! (laughs)

Kiuchi

Bokoblins were the first enemy to come along.

Iwata

Bokoblins were the first enemy you made?

Kiuchi

Yes. I've known them the longest, so I could pour the most love into them.

Iwata

Well, it shows! (laughs)