Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.



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Nintendo 3DS



Nintendo 3DS XL

Good but Inexpensive

Iwata

Taking the conversation back a little, I'd like to ask about the design. Miyatake-san, when you first saw the working model, what did you think from the point of view of design?

Miyatake

I remember I was surprised, like "Whoa!!" It made me think, "This'll go well!"

Iwata

Like, "If those of us making it are surprised, then surely the players will be!"

Miyatake

That's what I thought. I really did.

Iwata

The LCD is bigger on the Nintendo 3DS XL, but with regard to the overall size of the system, the thickness hasn't changed much, has it?

Miyatake

The website says it's 22 millimeters thick, but that number includes the feet-like projections. Without it the thinnest part is 21.3 millimeters, only 0.1 millimeters more than the Nintendo 3DS. This color of Nintendo 3DS XL is not available in North America.

Murakami

But that 0.1 millimeter really rankles! (laughs)

Everyone

(laughs)

Miyatake

It's larger, while being practically as thin – it feels more compact when you actually see it.

Iwata

If you look at the size measurements, it's close to the Nintendo DSi XL, but if you compare them side-by-side, it seems pretty small. And the corners are rounded, so it feels good when you hold it and feels easy to carry around.

Miyatake

We designed it with the concept "A softer 3DS with a bigger screen". It was only made possible because it was a larger piece of hardware, but the battery is in the center of the main body this time, so we could achieve more rounding on the exterior surfaces than ever before. With the battery in the center, the balance of weight is good.

Iwata

We had a preview at the general meeting of shareholders the other day (June 28, 2012), and when the shareholders got their hands on the 3DS XL, they complimented it, saying, “It’s easier to carry, and the balance is better than I thought."

Miyatake

Oh, they did! I'm so glad to hear that! (laughs)

Iwata

You also attempted a new method for adding decorations to the exterior, didn't you?

Miyatake

We did, in order for people to be able to casually carry it around like they are doing with the 3DS, we thought first and foremost of a neutral design, one without much difference between the top and the back of the system. We looked at ways we could give it variation by changing the colors and patterns of the exterior. A big point design-wise in allowing it to have those variations was the method of decoration. We looked at various methods and technologies, but based on cost and marketability, we ended up adopting IMD.

Iwata

Could you explain a little about what IMD is?

Miyatake

It's a method of molding using film. You take a film already printed with the coloring, insert it in the metal mold3 and press them together with resin. 3. Metal mold: A container in an inverted form of the shape you want to cast. They are often made of metal. Plastic and other materials are poured into them for mass production.

Iwata

If I remember correctly, you used IML for the Nintendo 3DS. How are IML and IMD different?

Miyatake

They're both film molding, but in IML, the film remains as a protective layer on the surface, while in IMD, the film is removed in the end. After removal, only the color and pattern layers and the UV printed layer remains.

Iwata

Simply put, it depends on whether there's a protective layer including the film itself or the film is removed and only the printed part remains. Is that correct?

Miyatake

Yes. They each have their merits and drawbacks, but the IML that we used for the Nintendo 3DS had an advantage toward forming three-dimensional shapes compared to IMD.

Iwata

That's why it was used for things like the buttons. Had Nintendo ever used IMD before?

Miyatake

We did use it for the face plate on the Game Boy Micro4 system and for the Pokéwalker5. 4. Game Boy Micro: A handheld game system that was small, light and compatible with the Game Boy Advance system. Released September 2005. The face plate could be removed and exchanged with others sold separately.

5. Pokéwalker: A pedometer that was packed in with Pokémon HeartGold and Pokémon SoulSilver for the Nintendo DS system. Released September 2009.

Murakami

As for the path toward choosing IMD this time, (Hirononi) Akai-san6—who isn't here today—and I had a manufacturer introduce IMD technology a little before the project began. Akai-san really liked it and often pushed us to use IMD. 6. Hironori Akai: Research & Engineering Department. See "Iwata Asks: Nintendo 3DS Exterior and Mechanical Design."

Miyatake

And what a push it was! (laughs)

Iwata

Why did Akai-san like IMD so much?

Murakami

Compared to painting, it's easier to apply various colors with a single foil (print and UV layers) sheet, so fewer defects arise, increasing yield7 and decreasing man-hours. The good cost benefit is why Akai-san pushed for it. 7. Yield: Amount of good production units being made in the manufacturing process.

Iwata

If you tried to paint the same thing, first you would have to take the housing8 and apply masking9 on certain parts, paint it, and then, to finish up, probably apply a UV protective layer, and repeat those stages. If dust would mix in or an application becomes uneven at one of those stages, the unit won't be usable. The more manufacturing process there are, it's unavoidable for the yield to fall and ultimately have a big effect on cost. 8. Housing: One of the parts that composes the casing. It covers and protects the outside of the device.

9. Masking: Covering parts of an object to be painted so that certain areas will remain unpainted.

Fujita

Yes, that's right.

Iwata

In the case of IMD, the colors are already there with the film printing, and the UV protective layer is already on the surface from the start, so it's better from the perspective of cost. Is that right?

Fujita

Yes, exactly! Thanks again! (laughs)

Iwata

After you decided on IMD, did it go smoothly?

Fujita

No, it wasn't that easy. The film is thin, so on the back where you pour in the resin, the film would run and warp.

Iwata

Ah, it warps because of the resin.

Fujita

Yes. It was a specific method, so all sorts of problems arose during the testing phase. We had the manufacturer come to the factory in China and observe the problems, and for film design, thought about bending it ahead of time in expectation of distortions during mass production. We were discussing it until about two weeks before mass production began and somehow made it in time.

Iwata

Usually, you shouldn't be doing such things at that point…but you were.

Fujita

Yeah. (laughs wryly)

Iwata

You can't see such difficulties from the final product. If you attempt something new, it never goes off without a hitch.

Fujita

Yeah, and it didn't.

Iwata

But in the end, the IMD looks great, and the balance is great, so it wasn't all about cost.

Miyatake

That's right. In that way, and from the standpoint of design, we really wanted to give players something good but inexpensive. Also, starting with the first approval of the design, I put estimated costs up alongside the various proposals.

Iwata

That's right. It was like lists of calories you sometimes see on menus.

Everyone

(laughs)

Iwata

I really would like people to see it for themselves.