Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.



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Nintendo 3DS




Pokédex™ 3D

Just Like a Pokémon Is Really There

Iwata

This time, it's an illustrated guide, so you began by making 3D models of the Pokémon.

Ishihara

That's right.

Iwata

When it comes to 3D models of Pokémon—and this is going back a ways—you and I worked together to establish a system for doing lots of modeling for the Pokémon Stadium8 and Pokémon Snap9games for the Nintendo 64 system.

Ishihara

That's right. (laughs) We made a team at Creatures called the Pokémon Modeling Center and made lots of models there.

Takeuchi

In the Nintendo 64 days, there were staff members involved with modeling Pokémon, and they participated this time, too.

Iwata

So when it comes to turning Pokémon into 3D, you have quite a long tradition and lots of experience, so we felt like we could just hand it off to Creatures.

Takeuchi

Pretty much. (laughs) 8. Pokémon Stadium™: A fighting game and illustrated guide released for the Nintendo 64™ system in August 1998. With this software, players could battle Pokémon in 3D and manage Pokémon Box cartridges for the Game Boy™ system using the Transfer Pak. It is compatible with the Pokémon Red Version, Pokémon Green Version, Pokémon Blue Version, and Pokémon Yellow: Special Pikachu Edition games.

9. Pokémon Snap™: A camera-action game released for the Nintendo 64 system in March 1999.

Iwata

How many people worked on it this time?

Takeuchi

Aside from development of the illustrated guide, there were about 30 modelers, as well as 5 people in charge of motion.

Ishihara

We had all hands on deck.

Iwata

When that many staff members are involved, it's hard to pull the quality together. Especially with software like Pokémon, not only do lots of characters appear, but each player has his or her own favorites, so you can't pour all your strength into one particular Pokémon.

Takeuchi

That's right. We divided up the work in the art team. I didn't instruct it, but we gave Pokémon with complicated shapes to people who were good at drawing difficult models, and we gave cute Pokémon to people who were cut out for that kind of work, doling them out according to the designers' strengths.

Iwata

So at first it was important to decide who would handle which Pokémon. How do you feel about making software for the Nintendo 3DS hardware?

Takeuchi

For the Nintendo 3DS system, we are able to use new graphics technology equivalent to a programmable shader10, so I think the graphics are strikingly rich. 10. Programmable shader: A shader is a graphics processing circuit or program mainly for representing light and shadow in graphics. A programmable shader allows programmers to determine how they would like the effects of light and shadow to be calculated. The high degree of freedom makes a wider variety of effects possible. The shader in the Nintendo 3DS system is not a programmable shader, but the hardware is capable of effectively performing the types of typical calculations used by a programmable shader.

Ogasawara

Another characteristic this time is self-shadowing.

Iwata

Could you explain to readers of "Iwata Asks" what self-shadowing is?

Ogasawara

Normally when you apply shadows in CG (computer graphics), the model casts a shadow on the floor or ground. Self-shadowing, just as its name suggests, allows models to cast shadows on themselves. For example, many Pokémon have big ears. The shadows cast by a Pokémon character's ears will now fall on its back.

Iwata

Shadows falling on you is natural in the real world, so we hope players will pay attention to such fine detail.

Ogasawara

Yes. Shadows were also necessary in AR.

Takeuchi

By adding shadows, we are able to create a greater sense of reality, as if the Pokémon is right there.

Ogasawara

And when you press the A Button, you can see animation for each of the various Pokémon. I hope people will watch those from various angles, too.

Iwata

How did you decide on that animation? Each Pokémon has its own movement, and the Pokémon are new this time, so there wasn't anything to use as reference, was there?

Takeuchi

This is downloadable software, so there were limits on volume. We could have been more efficient by making one pattern and using it for all the various Pokémon, but…

Iwata

But you didn't want to do that?

Takeuchi

Each Pokémon has its own characteristics, so, without establishing any firm restraints regarding common use of the animation, length, and so on, we asked the art team to make data for each of them.

Iwata

You added the animation without making them all the same, but rather in consideration of how each of their characteristics could be made to stand out.

Takeuchi

That's right. To make their characteristics stand out, a few ended up quite long.

Ishihara

For example, some Pokémon have two animations. In some cases, you press the A Button and animation appears, and when you press it again, another animation appears. Then you think, "I wonder how many more are like that!"

Iwata

You want to see all the animations for the Pokémon you have collected.

Ishihara

Yes. When you look at the Pokédex on the lower screen, there's text telling you everything about it—what kind of abilities that Pokémon has, what kind of moves it has learned, and how it evolved—so even if you don't play the game, you will learn details about what Pokémon are like as living creatures.

Iwata

When you touch some place you're curious about, it jumps to even more detailed information.

Ogasawara

Yes. For example, if you touch the name of a move, you can see what kind of move it is and a list of the Pokémon who can learn it.

Ishihara

And another feature of this software is how you can view it in six different languages!

Ogasawara

That happened at the very end! (laughs)

Ishihara

Right at the tail end, I asked if we could include six languages, and they said, "Uh…yes we can," so I was like, "Then please, make it so!" (laughs)

In addition to Japanese, you can switch to English, French, German, Italian, and Spanish. There's the Switch Language button so you can change the language in an instant, which is quite mysterious. Our brand management team looks at this when they wonder what a particular Pokémon is called in English. (laughs)

Iwata

Oh. (laughs)

Ishihara

And when people who are involved in design wonder how a certain Pokémon looks from behind or what one's tail is shaped like, they can spin it around, check it out, and say, "Oh, okay, I get it." (laughs)

Iwata

I see. So it's convenient for people in Pokémon brand management.

Ishihara

Pokédex 3D is quite handy at work!

Everyone

(laughs)