Iwata Asks is a series of interviews conducted by former Nintendo Global President Satoru Iwata with key creators behind the making of Nintendo games and hardware.



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Nintendo 3DS



New Super Mario Bros. 2

That Live Feeling

Iwata

This time, you tried several new things making use of the system's communicative features.

Amano

Yes. Using the StreetPass13 feature, you can exchange Coin Rush mode data. You can play Coin Rush mode repeatedly within a short time and collect more coins the better you know the stage. In some ways, it's like a concentration of typical Super Mario elements. 13. StreetPass: A feature that allows users who enable it to walk around with their Nintendo 3DS system turned on to exchange certain game data with other Nintendo 3DS users whom they pass on the street that also have StreetPass enabled.

Iwata

That's why you made it so that you compete in number of coins collected, like competing for times in Mario Kart.

Amano

Yes. You can try to beat the best time of someone you passed in the street, and if you beat them, not only do you get the coins you snagged, but you also get a bonus Crown Coin.

Iwata

What happens if you lose?

Amano

Even if you lose, as long as you clear the three courses, you'll get to keep the amount of coins on their record once. So just by playing the game data you receive by StreetPass, we made it so that you'll get to collect more coins. Even to those who may not be that good with Mario games, may be able to get a whole lot of coins if they can StreetPass with someone who's very good.

Iwata

StreetPass becomes another way to get a million coins.

Amano

You got it! And via the SpotPass14 feature, you can learn how many coins others have collected. 14. SpotPass: A feature in the Nintendo 3DS system that when activated receives various information and content when near a wireless LAN access point.

Tezuka

Different regions and countries can compete with each other.

Iwata

Like, "Look at how many America has! Japan better not lose!"

Amano

Yeah. From now on, we'll be deciding exactly how to present it. I'll consult Tezuka-san again, because I really want to do it.

Iwata

Another thing still to come is using the communicative functions to offer additional stages.

Amano

Right.

Iwata

Between me and Mr. Miyamoto, we've been long discussing our position in distributing the paid add-on contents for packaged software. Our conclusion is that we may make that proposal as long as we can establish the structure in which we can ask our customers to pay the fees as the compensation for our creative works. In fact, at one of the internal meeting last year, Mr. Miyamoto picked up the possibility of paid add-on courses' download distribution for a Mario game as an example. I too have expressed our basic idea publicly. However, irrespective of such discussions, Amano-san, you had a different motivation for realizing the add-on courses.

Amano

Actually, this isn't the first time for a Super Mario game to have additional stages. I was on the staff for Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 315, and it had a way to add extra stages.

Iwata

By using the Nintendo e-Reader16, you could play additional stages. 15. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros 3: An action game released for the Game Boy Advance system in July 2003.

16. Nintendo e-Reader: A peripheral device for the Game Boy Advance system. By using it to read a two-dimensional barcode on an e-Reader Card, users could enjoy mini-games and unlock new content.

Amano

Right. We did that because when it comes to Super Mario games, we tend to make stages that anyone can play, since so many people do.

Iwata

But when you do that, then players confident in their skill say, "This Super Mario game is lukewarm!"

Amano

Exactly. So for Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros 3, we made really sharp—really difficult—stages to add later. I played them myself and had a ball. I thought, "I wish more people could enjoy this."

Iwata

At that time, it was necessary to buy the Nintendo e-Reader separately.

Amano

For that reason, not as many people as I had hoped enjoyed the additional stages, but personally, I loved them! That was about nine years ago, and ever since then, I've been thinking I want to do that again sometime.

Iwata

Additional stages have been on your wish list for nine years now.

Amano

Right! They kicked off this time when I got assigned to this Super Mario game for the Nintendo 3DS and said to Tezuka-san, "I definitely want to have additional stages!"

Iwata

I had also asked Tezuka-san think about digitally distributing additional Mario levels. I felt if we were going to work on paid additional content, it needed to be a game like Mario where anyone could enjoy. Otherwise, it may not be experienced by a lot of people.

Tezuka

Yeah. In case of 2D Mario games, the play contents can be significantly changed by adding new courses. Luckily, because we had opened the Mario Cram School, this time we had about twice the number of staff who were able to design courses. In that sense too, I thought Mario games and the idea of additional courses worked well together. I started by telling the staff early on that this has meaning since it was for Super Mario, so we should come up with something.

Iwata

Amano-san's desire for eventually being able to make additional levels linked up at the just the right moment with my desire that if we were going to try it, it had to be with with Super Mario, and also with how we were able to make that possible as an organization now because of the Mario Cram School.

Amano

We started thinking over various things, and there are a number of ways to add stages. We were able to make a solid Coin Rush mode, so we decided to try it with that.

Iwata

Why is the Coin Rush mode right for additional stages?

Ishikawa

Well, the main stages have a story, so…

Iwata

The familiar story. (laughs)

Ishikawa

Right. Princess Peach gets kidnapped, and you clear the game through a final confrontation with Bowser. If we forced additional stages into that, the whole atmosphere would fall apart.

Iwata

It wouldn't end on the right note.

Ishikawa

Right. But you can play the Coin Rush mode several times in a short time, so it ends perfectly.

Amano

We're thinking over that right now but haven't made anything yet.

Iwata

Right, you haven't started working on it yet.

Amano

Yeah. We will, though. We want to hear feedback from people who have played the game before we work on it.

Tezuka

That's right. We'll make the additional stages with an ear out for opinions on what is a hit in the main stages.

Iwata

That's an important point this time. Miyamoto-san in particular is stressing that if we were to make additional content, it has to feel live. I think he feels that approach is the way to alleviate any opinions like, "Why didn't you include it all from the start?!"

Amano

Yeah.

Iwata

That's why looking at the response from players and releasing additional content in a live fashion is the best way.

Amano

Yes. If we make additional stages, then players who have played them can use StreetPass to share data with people they don't know, leading to further spreading the word.

Iwata

So it won't end up like nine years ago?

Amano

No, I think not! And something I would like to boldly proclaim to people who have said that so far the series hasn't been that difficult is that this time you can play some challenging stages.

Iwata

But you won't make them all totally demonic, will you?

Amano

No… And in addition to listening to the fans and thinking of a bunch of stages, I hope to hold special events that everyone can participate in.